I told my sons, call your mother(JW) and tell her you love her and I know you don't believe in
celebrating Mothers day but you are our mom and we appreciate you.
The most hard core JW will hang up the phone, I think it will bring tears to her eyes.
i told my sons, call your mother(jw) and tell her you love her and i know you don't believe in.
celebrating mothers day but you are our mom and we appreciate you.. the most hard core jw will hang up the phone, i think it will bring tears to her eyes..
I told my sons, call your mother(JW) and tell her you love her and I know you don't believe in
celebrating Mothers day but you are our mom and we appreciate you.
The most hard core JW will hang up the phone, I think it will bring tears to her eyes.
for the many years i was mentally " in " the congregation, i equated the organisation as interchangeable with the persona of jehovah, in effect whatever the organisation said or thought, that was what jehovah thought and that was what jehovah said.... it was that simple.
so when i found out the ttatt and the cynical moves of the organisation over the years,including 1975 , the donation arrangements, the united nations, etc i was devastated and thought " where's jehovah in all of this?".
the god who i'd poured my heart out to on many occasions and who i thought was silently listening and hearing my pleas ..... was not there , .
When I was a JW I knew the answer for everything and now it is so much fun
to learn, to discover new things. For me no personal God, I deal with it, It's a fact of life.
Look at the bright side, you no longer have to worry about eternal punishment. You live
your life as it is and not relay on some imagined afterlife. You live by the rules that is
set by society because you want to respect yourself, religions have been the most
immoral forces in human history.
And where is GOD? They say that when you die you become closer to God. You damn right
you do, because you no longer exist.
...right from a pro-jw site in response to a post about the relative seriousness of homosexuality.
all you can do is reason from the scriptures, which you appear to have done.
homosexuality is as serious as bestiality, or adultery and fornication.
My earlier years in the organization there were two ladies the wife and I were close to.
They lived together, pioneered , many studies and aided many to baptism. One study I remember
they had was a ex porno worker, she was baptized.
I told the wife one day, those two sisters are gay, and she said Oh no not in Jehovah's organization.
I was told years later they were both DF.
Now the funny thing about this, they were instrumental in aiding others into this loving organization.
I guess Jehovah works in mysterious ways.
start at 1 samuel 18;1-4..now imagine if this story had been about jonathan and a woman.. 1 samuel 20:30..saul calls jonathan a son of a perverse rebellious woman!
the blame for his.
behavior goes first to the mother, who was too soft," or too harsh who perverted his son somehow.. 1 samuel 20:41-42.."they kissed each other and wept with each other".. so was it merely deep friendship or a romantic relationship?.
start at 1 samuel 18;1-4..now imagine if this story had been about jonathan and a woman.. 1 samuel 20:30..saul calls jonathan a son of a perverse rebellious woman!
the blame for his.
behavior goes first to the mother, who was too soft," or too harsh who perverted his son somehow.. 1 samuel 20:41-42.."they kissed each other and wept with each other".. so was it merely deep friendship or a romantic relationship?.
Lieu: Agree"religious society obsessed with sex", and JW's are in the front of the pack
with that one. Not only the males but also females are sexually repressed.
...right from a pro-jw site in response to a post about the relative seriousness of homosexuality.
all you can do is reason from the scriptures, which you appear to have done.
homosexuality is as serious as bestiality, or adultery and fornication.
How would things worked out if GOD had said, "I leave you these words only, I
created you and now you work it out, you are on your own".
From the book of Adam, One chapter and one verse..
now that the soc has accepted the use of technology.
what is next?
could it be the disfellowshipping?
The End Days, NO one knows when it will arrive. Live your life and hope for the best, in the
mean time keep up the work and continue to send in your dollars.
They will stop the carrot dangling because they realize no one believe the BS...
start at 1 samuel 18;1-4..now imagine if this story had been about jonathan and a woman.. 1 samuel 20:30..saul calls jonathan a son of a perverse rebellious woman!
the blame for his.
behavior goes first to the mother, who was too soft," or too harsh who perverted his son somehow.. 1 samuel 20:41-42.."they kissed each other and wept with each other".. so was it merely deep friendship or a romantic relationship?.
I must admit today that some of the Arabic countries have a jail house mentality in regards
to homosexuality, the person that is doing the raping is not gay but the person that is being
raped is gay...
Thanks folks for all your comments...
start at 1 samuel 18;1-4..now imagine if this story had been about jonathan and a woman.. 1 samuel 20:30..saul calls jonathan a son of a perverse rebellious woman!
the blame for his.
behavior goes first to the mother, who was too soft," or too harsh who perverted his son somehow.. 1 samuel 20:41-42.."they kissed each other and wept with each other".. so was it merely deep friendship or a romantic relationship?.
Start at 1 Samuel 18;1-4..Now imagine if this story had been about Jonathan and a woman.
1 Samuel 20:30..Saul calls Jonathan a son of a perverse rebellious woman! The blame for his
behavior goes first to the mother, who was too soft," or too harsh who perverted his son somehow.
1 Samuel 20:41-42.."they kissed each other and wept with each other".
So was it merely deep friendship or a romantic relationship?
2 Samuel 1:23, 26-27...David states the love he shared with Jonathan was greater than what he
had experienced with women.
What do you think?????
I Know Saul was upset because Jonathan warned David about his (Saul) intention, to have
David killed. But to use the word perverse , what's up with that.
the famous wedding/ water into wine scene where he basically tells me mother to hop it and that he's nothing to do with her is what i am referring to.. now the wt tries to claim that this is not disrespectful and that jesus says this in a kindly manner which somehow makes it all ok. but then the wt have never been big on respecting women so this probably would make sense to them.. but the fact is that in the ten commandments the jews were commanded to respect their parents, in fact if a child was disrespectful to the parents the parents were to stone the child and... if the parents didn't the tribe were to stone them too.. so by being disrespectful towards his mother jesus was breaking gods law, by not stoning him mary and joseph were breaking gods law and by not stoning them the tribe were breaking gods law.. what do you think?
the wt's explanation of jesus's behaviour never did sit well with me.
do you agree?
If I had said that to my mom, my older brothers, sisters and dad would have kicked
my ass into the next day and my mom, well lets say my life would have been short-lived.